Brian Baumgartner (The Office, Off The Beat) joins us this week to reflect on how the celebration of the ordinary with a show like The Office has led to its resurgence as one of the most popular shows today, even years after it ended. Brian shares stories landing his role as Kevin and talks about how the show has gained a second life with podcasts, NY Times best sellers, and his very own chili cookbook. We also talk about our shared backroom run ins with Jack Nicholson, how separation from his phone by going golfing eases his anxiety, and Brian’s catalyst moment that moved him from theater to film and television.